I hope this cools down into a propagation war after the initial bombing and shooting. Nationalism served, and every one gets what they want, well, except the dead ones...
> The Indian government said its forces had struck nine sites in Pakistan and on Pakistan’s side of the disputed Kashmir region. Pakistani military officials said that five places had been hit, in Punjab Province and its part of Kashmir.
China is about the only regional power big enough to face off with India, so any move by Pakistan would require Chinese approval lest Pakistan risk China siding with India and getting squished.
Edit; asking Mom for permission to beat up your brother?
Overstates the power China has over the Pakistani Military. Pakistan has built close ties with Turkiye as well to provide a redundancy along with spare parts for older American/NATO weaponry.
India has a dedicated No First Use Policy, and the former head of India's nuclear command gave an in depth presentation about India, Pakistan, and China's nuclear doctrine at Livermore Labs a couple years ago - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=OZpIrZvP0Co
Most of the conversation about a nuclear war is dated (30-35 years old) because it was based on the 1990 standoff, before which India and Pakistan did not have a hotline similar to that which the US and USSR developed.
After the 1990 standoff, that was developed, and was clearly implemented during the Kargil War in 1999 (just because Clinton admin didn't want to call it a war because of NPT implications doesn't mean it wasn't a war).
At this point, be more worried about Ukraine or South Korea - Russia's nuclear doctrine has become much more questionable after the 2022 invasion, and North Korea's nuclear doctrine remains hazy.
The memeification of the current escalation has been talked about a lot. Memes, and we are talking cat memes not the more theoretical abstractions like 10 page whitepapers that become popular, seem more powerful than people expect.
I know India and Pakistan(less popular on HN?) users are asleep ~4am but this should be voted higher. Instead we'll get the 100th ill-thought-out but emotional opinion piece on a 'popular' twitter conflict on the front page.
Unless you mean they should get on a level and work through their differences, that’s an awful thing to say. There are over 3,000,000,000 people living in India, Pakistan, and China.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/world/asia/india-pakistan... (https://archive.ph/Bph7S)
https://www.cnn.com/2025/05/06/asia/india-pakistan-kashmir-c...
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/live-blog/2025-05-06/india-st... (https://archive.ph/eypzA)
https://www.bbc.com/news/live/cwyneele13qt
> The Indian government said its forces had struck nine sites in Pakistan and on Pakistan’s side of the disputed Kashmir region. Pakistani military officials said that five places had been hit, in Punjab Province and its part of Kashmir.
https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/world/asia/india-pakistan...
Edit; asking Mom for permission to beat up your brother?
I hope it does not happen, but the way things are going in this world, I would not be surprised.
In the past, the USSR and the US would try to broker peace between the two countries. I doubt anyone will try now.
Most of the conversation about a nuclear war is dated (30-35 years old) because it was based on the 1990 standoff, before which India and Pakistan did not have a hotline similar to that which the US and USSR developed.
After the 1990 standoff, that was developed, and was clearly implemented during the Kargil War in 1999 (just because Clinton admin didn't want to call it a war because of NPT implications doesn't mean it wasn't a war).
At this point, be more worried about Ukraine or South Korea - Russia's nuclear doctrine has become much more questionable after the 2022 invasion, and North Korea's nuclear doctrine remains hazy.
Ignoring proxy wars and technicalities (NK and USA)
Kargil War - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kargil_War (1999) India and Pakistan
The memeification of the current escalation has been talked about a lot. Memes, and we are talking cat memes not the more theoretical abstractions like 10 page whitepapers that become popular, seem more powerful than people expect.
I know India and Pakistan(less popular on HN?) users are asleep ~4am but this should be voted higher. Instead we'll get the 100th ill-thought-out but emotional opinion piece on a 'popular' twitter conflict on the front page.
[edit] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sino-Soviet_border_conflict China Russia (1969) China's first nuclear test (1966)