30 comments

  • wiseowise 1 hour ago
    Still remember how my PC was freezing on VC 20 years ago, and now I can play it in a browser in 120 fps. Wild.

    Big kudos to https://github.com/SugaryHull/re3/tree/miami on which this is based on. Wholeheartedly agree with authors, every game older than 10 years, and that is not in active development, should be made open source so that community can keep games alive instead of letting them rot.

    • tobyjsullivan 57 minutes ago
      > agree with authors, every game older than 10 years, and that is not in active development, should be made open source so that community

      Note that GTA V is now 12 years old and still sells ~20M copies per year. So that’s going to be a tough sell in some cases.

      You could argue it’s still actively developed, particularly due to online, so fair enough.

      But that’s also sort of true for Vice City. They’ve released mobile version (playable on Netflix) over the past few years at least.

      Nevertheless, I’d be thrilled if that was a standard practice.

      • ASalazarMX 15 minutes ago
        Fallout 4 is ten years old and just recently was sold again as a remake, basically a small update with pre-included mods. Skyrim is 14 years old and I'm sure it will be resold at least one more time before TES VI is released.

        Moddable games are like prescription pills that add one ingredient to a patent-expired recipe, to repatent it as new.

  • superasn 1 hour ago
    This works amazing well. I started playing and just 5 minutes in, I was completely hooked and ended up playing for almost half hour.

    It could be that I'm a bit old-school, but this really seemed to confirm that ready to play fun gameplay trumps realistic graphics any day!

    • emilbratt 1 hour ago
      Pushing the nostalgic effect aside, I agree. The gameplay is the important part and is why I can still play snes games to this day.
  • amarant 1 hour ago
    This got me thinking that one of my childhood favourites ought to be playable in the browser too, and sure enough, here's GTA 2 if anyone else is as old as I am:

    https://dos.zone/grand-theft-auto2/

    • djeastm 1 hour ago
      GTA 1 was the first computer game I ever remember buying with my own money:

      https://dos.zone/grand-theft-auto-1997/

      I can't get the radio music playing, unfortunately.

    • jtokoph 1 hour ago
      This is great. I also played the heck out of GTA2. I had a lot of fun attempting to mod the textures to get my favorite cars in the game. Respect is everything.
    • doublerabbit 1 hour ago
      Carmageddon is another old classic of mine, https://dos.zone/carmageddon

      I used to watch my older brother play this when I was younger and he always hid the CD.

      • amarant 19 minutes ago
        Oh damn, my cousin had carmageddon! We'd stay up all night long playing it when I visited him!

        Now I gotta find that other game he had, but I don't remember what it was called. It was kinda like reverse GTA: you played as a female cop and you had to stop the criminals. Iirc there were corrupt cops later on in the game.

    • dashzebra 1 hour ago
      wsdfqfcf

      If you know, you know.

  • sho_hn 19 minutes ago
    I did this with Tomb Raider once:

    https://eikehein.com/stuff/sabatu/

    (Here with a fan level to avoid copyright concerns.)

  • agentifysh 1 hour ago
    this is one of the most impressive thing i've see on HN

    how is this done ?? what engine is used ? it feels exactly like the original

    also the whole website dos zone seems to have all these browser versions of half life etc ???

    how are people making these things and how are they legal ?

    so many questions

    • sho_hn 16 minutes ago
      > how is this done ?? what engine is used ? it feels exactly like the original

      It's most likely using reVC, a reverse-engineering of the original binaries by decompilation, and then built for the web using emscripten, which does a fairly good job making OpenGL code work on WebGL.

      My Tomb Raider web build I linked here elsewhere was done the same way (reversing by the amazing people in the TR1X project).

      • alternatetwo 9 minutes ago
        Pro tip: press R for free roam script in menu. This was a debugging feature in re3 and reVC.
    • sva_ 1 hour ago
      If I had to guess, by being hosted in Russia they probably ignore the legality.
    • basch 43 minutes ago
      If you boot the game, it only loads the demo, and it tells you to supply your own game file to play the rest.
      • Hamuko 18 minutes ago
        The demo includes a lot of the game assets though. Looks like it has the full map, probably a lot if not all of the vehicles, peds too.
    • bossyTeacher 1 hour ago
      > how are they legal ?

      they are not, but then again so are many things. We choose what laws to enforce (see 18-20 year olds drinking, unmarried cohabitation, etc). just because it is not legal does not mean that law enforcement will care.

      • stevezsa8 47 minutes ago
        In which country is unmarried cohabitation not legal?
        • kube-system 37 minutes ago
          Today, Iran. And even parts of Europe as late as the 90s
    • kg 1 hour ago
      For the "how" see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46330258 - the game has been reverse engineered. There are reverse engineering and reimplementation projects like this for a lot of older games, i.e. Mario 64, Diablo and at least one of the Sonic games

      Is it legal? Well, the reverse engineering typically is as long as you follow the rules, but hosting all the game assets on a public web server so you can play it probably isn't.

      • charcircuit 1 hour ago
        reVC is clear copyright infringement distributing a derivative work based off the code of the game.
  • MinimalAction 1 hour ago
    Crazy! Brought back the summers of my childhood where I mindlessly roamed around the Vice City with my custom MP3 list of songs. For so long, I was stuck on flying the RC helicopter in an abandoned skyscraper level. It has been years, and now I have the itch to try that again!

    Thanks to whoever made this possible. There goes my weekend.

  • onion2k 13 minutes ago
    It's at least 20 years since I last played Vice City, and I can still remember my way around the map. That's weird.
  • dailen 49 minutes ago
    And it consumes less RAM than msn.com
  • sehugg 57 minutes ago
    GTA Vice City was released for iOS devices in 2012, and IIRC it ran pretty well. Not surprising that it runs well with WASM/WebGPU, given the massive increase in GPU performance. I'd imagine that the CPU-bound paths are well-optimized for 2002 Pentiums.
    • al_borland 13 minutes ago
      I just re-downloaded Vice City on my iPhone yesterday. It runs well, but the on-screen controls are, well, on-screen controls. That limits how much I actually want to play it.
  • Exuma 53 minutes ago
    Which was the GTA where you rode around on a dirtbike out in the california mountains, and there was like bootleggers and stuff.... man i have serious memories of that game
  • kaycebasques 13 minutes ago
    Is something similar available for GTA3?
  • ekjhgkejhgk 1 hour ago
    I'm so old that GTA in 3D still feels new.
  • pipes 1 hour ago
    I came here hoping to see some technical explanation of what this is. E.g.JavaScript emulation of PS2 version? Recompilation + wasm? Something else entirely?
    • Hamuko 1 hour ago
      Says reVC in the description, so it's been decompiled from the original Vice City binary and then reimplemented in JavaScript/WebAssembly.
  • _fat_santa 1 hour ago
    Haven’t tried this yet but I literally just loaded the OG PC version on my steam deck.

    The originals are amazing but I have to say for all their faults, the Definitive Editions figured out the camera. For anyone that played the OG versions you were stuck with the “follow cam” unless you had a PC + Mouse

  • bgirard 1 hour ago
    Wow, crazy to see this childhood classic load and run seamlessly in my browser. Better than on my old hot wheels pc.
  • pinus-cembra 1 hour ago
    Web browsers really have come a long way. Will be interesting to see where we'll be in 10 to 20 years.
  • Stevvo 1 hour ago
    Saw some funny bugs I don't remember from the original, but it looks a lot better.
  • doganugurlu 58 minutes ago
    Sensible Soccer is so true to the original. It's even impossible to quit it!
  • admtal 1 hour ago
    I wish all ps2 games were playable and available on such a site
  • tigranbs 1 hour ago
    Links times out, seems the host wasn't ready for the HN traffic!
  • Ram10- 1 hour ago
    Wine in the browser would be so interesting for retro software.
  • HardwareLust 1 hour ago
    Wow that worked shockingly well on my cheap Moto phone!
  • rohan_ 1 hour ago
    is this some WASM magic?
  • RobRivera 1 hour ago
    I kneel
  • tsukurimashou 1 hour ago
    better than the original rockstar PC port...
  • sergiotapia 1 hour ago
    It runs insanely well what the hell!
  • lawlessone 1 hour ago
    Feels pretty smooth on my phone for something that's running in the browser.
  • mmaunder 1 hour ago
    Wow!!
  • christkv 1 hour ago
    So awesome
  • wmoxam 41 minutes ago
    Ah shit, here we go again