Great, I've been experimenting with OpenCode and running local 30B-A3B models on llama.cpp (4 bit) on a 32 GB GPU so there's plenty of VRAM left for 128k context. So far Qwen3-coder gives the me best results. Nemotron 3 Nano is supposed to benchmark better but it doesn't really show for the kind of work I throw at it, mostly "write tests for this and that method which are not covered yet". Will give this a try once someone has quantized it in ~4 bit GGUF.
Codex is notably higher quality but also has me waiting forever. Hopefully these small models get better and better, not just at benchmarks.
I find it hard to trust post training quantizations. Why don't they run benchmarks to see the degradation in performance? It sketches me out because it should be the easiest thing to automatically run a suite of benchmarks
One thing to consider is that this version is a new architecture, so it’ll take time for Llama CPP to get updated. Similar to how it was with Qwen Next.
There are a bunch of 4bit quants in the GGUF link and the 0xSero has some smaller stuff too. Might still be too big and you'll need to ungpu poor yourself.
Except this is GLM 4.7 Flash which has 32B total params, 3B active. It should fit with a decent context window of 40k or so in 20GB of ram at 4b weights quantization and you can save even more by quantizing the activations and KV cache to 8bit.
yes, but the parrent link was to the big glm 4.7 that had a bunch of ggufs, the new one at the point of posting did not, nor does it now. im waiting for unsloth guys for the 4.7 flash
> Codex is notably higher quality but also has me waiting forever.
And while it usually leads to higher quality output, sometimes it doesn't, and I'm left with a bs AI slop that would have taken Opus just a couple of minutes to generate anyway.
I've been using z.ai models through their coding plan (incredible price/performance ratio), and since GLM-4.7 I'm even more confident with the results it gives me. I use it both with regular claude-code and opencode (more opencode lately, since claude-code is obviously designed to work much better with Anthropic models).
Also notice that this is the "-Flash" version. They were previously at 4.5-Flash (they skipped 4.6-Flash). This is supposed to be equivalent to Haiku. Even on their coding plan docs, they mention this model is supposed to be used for `ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_HAIKU_MODEL`.
Same, I got 12 months of subscription for $28 total (promo offer), with 5x the usage limits of the $20/month Claude Pro plan. I have only used it with claude code so far.
Looks like solid incremental improvements. The UI oneshot demos are a big improvement over 4.6. Open models continue to lag roughly a year on benchmarks; pretty exciting over the long term. As always, GLM is really big - 355B parameters with 31B active, so it’s a tough one to self-host. It’s a good candidate for a cerebras endpoint in my mind - getting sonnet 4.x (x<5) quality with ultra low latency seems appealing.
I hear this said, but never substantiated. Indeed, I think our big issue right now is making actual benchmarks relevant to our own workloads.
Due to US foreign policy, I quit claude yesterday and picked up minimax m2.1 We wrote a whole design spec for a project I’ve previously written a spec for with claude (but some changes to architecture this time, adjacent, not same).
My gut feel ? I prefer minimax m2.1 with open code to claude. Easiest boycot ever.
(I even picked the 10usd plan, it was fine for now).
I tried Cerebras with GLM-4.7 (not Flash) yesterday using paid API credits ($10). They have rate limits per-minute and it counts cached tokens against it so you'll get limited in the first few seconds of every minute, then you have to wait the rest of the minute. So they're "fast" at 1000 tok/sec - but not really for practical usage. You effectively get <50 tok/sec with rate limits and being penalized for cached tokens.
They also charge full price for the same cached tokens on every request/response, so I burned through $4 for 1 relatively simple coding task - would've cost <$0.50 using GPT-5.2-Codex or any other model besides Opus and maybe Sonnet that supports caching. And it would've been much faster.
The pay-per-use API sucks. If you end up on the $50/mo plan, it's better, with caveats:
1 million tokens per minute, 24 million tokens per day. BUT: cached tokens count full, so if you have 100,000 tokens of context you can burn a minute of tokens in a few requests.
FWIW this is what Linux and the early open-source databases (e.g. PostgreSQL and MySQL) did.
They usually lagged for large sets of users: Linux was not as advanced as Solaris, PostgreSQL lacked important features contained in Oracle. The practical effect of this is that it puts the proprietary implementation on a treadmill of improvement where there are two likely outcomes: 1) the rate of improvement slows enough to let the OSS catch up or 2) improvement continues, but smaller subsets of people need the further improvements so the OSS becomes "good enough." (This is similar to how most people now do not pay attention to CPU speeds because they got "fast enough" for most people well over a decade ago.)
Deepseek 3.2 scores gold at IMO and others. Google had to use parallel reasoning to do that with gemini, and the public version still only achieves silver.
Note that this is the Flash variant, which is only 31B parameters in total.
And yet, in terms of coding performance (at least as measured by SWE-Bench Verified), it seems to be roughly on par with o3/GPT-5 mini, which would be pretty impressive if it translated to real-world usage, for something you can realistically run at home.
Gave it four of my vibe questions around general knowledge and it didn’t do great. Maybe expected with a model as small as this one. Once support in llama.cpp is out I will take it for a spin.
Comparison to GPT-OSS-20B (irrespective of how you feel that model actually performs) doesn't fill me with confidence. Given GLM 4.7 seems like it could be competitive with Sonnet 4/4.5, I would have hoped that their flash model would run circles around GPT-OSS-120B. I do wish they would provide an Aider result for comparison. Aider may be saturated among SotA models, but it's not at this size.
Hoping a 30-A3B runs circles around a 117-A5.1B is a bit hopeful thinking, especially when you’re testing embedded knowledge. From the numbers, I think this model excels at agent calls compared to GPT-20B. The rest are about the same in terms of performance
For anyone who’s already running this locally: what’s the simplest setup right now (tooling + quant format)? If you have a working command, would love to see it.
I've been running it with llama-server from llama.cpp (compiled for CUDA backend, but there are also prebuilt binaries and instructions for other backends in the README) using the Q4_K_M quant from ngxson on Lubuntu with an RTX 3090:
Seems to work okay, but there usually are subtle bugs in the implementation or chat template when a new model is released, so it might be worthwhile to update both model and server in a few days.
I think the recently introduced -fit option which is on by default means it's no longer necesary to -ngl, can also probably drop -c which is "0" by default and reads metadata from the gguf to get the model's advertised context size
We’ve launched GLM-4.7-Flash, a lightweight and efficient model designed as the free-tier version of GLM-4.7, delivering strong performance across coding, reasoning, and generative tasks with low latency and high throughput.
The update brings competitive coding capabilities at its scale, offering best-in-class general abilities in writing, translation, long-form content, role play, and aesthetic outputs for high-frequency and real-time use cases.
Maybe someone here has tackled this before. I’m trying to connect Antigravity or Cursor with GLM/Qwen coding models, but haven’t had any luck so far. I can easily run Open-WebUI + LLaMA on my 5090 Ubuntu box without issues. However, when I try to point Antigravity or Cursor to those models, they don’t seem to recognize or access them. Has anyone successfully set this up?
I think most have moved past SWE-Bench Verified as a benchmark worth tracking -- it only tracks a few repos, contains only a small number of languages, and probably more importantly papers have come out showing a significant degree of memorization in current models, e.g. models knowing the filepath of the file containing the bug when prompted only with the issue description and without having access to the actual filesystem. SWE-Bench Pro seems much more promising though doesn't avoid all of the problems with the above.
swe-REbench is interesting. The "RE" stands for re-testing after the models were launched. They periodically gather new issues from live repos on github, and have a slider where you can see the scores for all issues in a given interval. So if you wait ~2 months you can see how the models perform on new (to them) real-world issues.
It's still not as accurate as benchmarks on your own workflows, but it's better than the original benchmark. Or any other public benchmarks.
Interesting they are releasing a tiny (30B) variant, unlike the 4.5-air distill which was 106B parameters. It must be competing with gpt mini and nano models, which personally I have found to be pretty weak. But this could be perfect for local LLM use cases.
In my ime small tier models are good for simple tasks like translation and trivia answering, but are useless for anything more complex. 70B class and above is where models really start to shine.
Every time I've tried to actually use gpt-oss 20b it's just gotten stuck in weird feedback loops reminiscent of the time when HAL got shut down back in the year 2001. And these are very simple tests e.g. I try and get it to check today's date from the time tool to get more recent search results from the arxiv tool.
It actually seems worse. gpt-20b is only 11 GB because it is prequantized in mxfp4. GLM-4.7-Flash is 62 GB. In that sense GLM is closer to and actually is slightly larger than gpt-120b which is 59 GB.
Also, according to the gpt-oss model card 20b is 60.7 (GLM claims they got 34 for that model) and 120b is 62.7 on SWE-Bench Verified vs GLM reports 59.7
Note: I strongly recommend against using Novita -their main gig is they're quantizing the model to offer it for cheaper / supposedly at better latency; but if you ran an eval against other providers vs novita, you can spot the quality degradation. This is nowhere marked, or displayed in their offering.
Tolerating this is very bad form from openrouter, as they default-select lowest price -meaning people who just jump into using openrouter and do not know about this fuckery get facepalm'd by perceived model quality.
GLM itself is quite inexpensive. A year sub to their coding plan is only $29 and works with a bunch of various tools. I use it heavily as a "I don't want to spend my anthropic credits" day-to-day model (mostly using Crush)
We don't have lot of GPUs available right now, but it is not crazy hard to get it running on our MI300x. Depending on your quant, you probably want a 4x.
ssh admin.hotaisle.app
Yes, this should be made easier to just get a VM with it pre-installed. Working on that.
What's the minimum hardware you need to run this at a reasonable speed?
My Mac Mini probably isn't up for the task, but in the future I might be interested in a Mac Studio just to churn at long-running data enrichment types of projects
Codex is notably higher quality but also has me waiting forever. Hopefully these small models get better and better, not just at benchmarks.
This user has also done a bunch of good quants:
https://huggingface.co/0xSero
https://unsloth.ai/docs/basics/unsloth-dynamic-2.0-ggufs
It isn't much until you get down to very small quants.
The flash model in this thread is more than 10x smaller (30B).
https://huggingface.co/models?other=base_model:quantized:zai...
Probably as:
https://huggingface.co/unsloth/GLM-4.7-Flash-GGUF
issue to follow: https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/issues/18931
And while it usually leads to higher quality output, sometimes it doesn't, and I'm left with a bs AI slop that would have taken Opus just a couple of minutes to generate anyway.
Also notice that this is the "-Flash" version. They were previously at 4.5-Flash (they skipped 4.6-Flash). This is supposed to be equivalent to Haiku. Even on their coding plan docs, they mention this model is supposed to be used for `ANTHROPIC_DEFAULT_HAIKU_MODEL`.
Due to US foreign policy, I quit claude yesterday and picked up minimax m2.1 We wrote a whole design spec for a project I’ve previously written a spec for with claude (but some changes to architecture this time, adjacent, not same).
My gut feel ? I prefer minimax m2.1 with open code to claude. Easiest boycot ever.
(I even picked the 10usd plan, it was fine for now).
They also charge full price for the same cached tokens on every request/response, so I burned through $4 for 1 relatively simple coding task - would've cost <$0.50 using GPT-5.2-Codex or any other model besides Opus and maybe Sonnet that supports caching. And it would've been much faster.
1 million tokens per minute, 24 million tokens per day. BUT: cached tokens count full, so if you have 100,000 tokens of context you can burn a minute of tokens in a few requests.
People talk about these models like they are "catching up", they don't see that they are just trailers hooked up to a truck, pulling them along.
They usually lagged for large sets of users: Linux was not as advanced as Solaris, PostgreSQL lacked important features contained in Oracle. The practical effect of this is that it puts the proprietary implementation on a treadmill of improvement where there are two likely outcomes: 1) the rate of improvement slows enough to let the OSS catch up or 2) improvement continues, but smaller subsets of people need the further improvements so the OSS becomes "good enough." (This is similar to how most people now do not pay attention to CPU speeds because they got "fast enough" for most people well over a decade ago.)
Proxmox became good and reliable enough as an open-source alternative for server management. Especially for the Linux enthusiasts out there.
This is a terrible "test" of model quality. All these models fail when your UI is out of distribution; Codex gets close but still fails.
And yet, in terms of coding performance (at least as measured by SWE-Bench Verified), it seems to be roughly on par with o3/GPT-5 mini, which would be pretty impressive if it translated to real-world usage, for something you can realistically run at home.
Not for code. The quality is so low, it's roughly on par with Sonnet 3.5
https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp/releases
https://huggingface.co/ngxson/GLM-4.7-Flash-GGUF/blob/main/G...
https://github.com/ggml-org/llama.cpp?tab=readme-ov-file#sup...
You can then chat with it at http://127.0.0.1:8080 or use the OpenAI-compatible API at http://127.0.0.1:8080/v1/chat/completionsSeems to work okay, but there usually are subtle bugs in the implementation or chat template when a new model is released, so it might be worthwhile to update both model and server in a few days.
You can get LLM as a service for cheaper.
E.g. This model costs less than a tenth of Haiku 4.5.
https://huggingface.co/inference/models?model=zai-org%2FGLM-...
Slow inference is also present on z.ai, eyeballing it the 4.7 flash model was twice as slow as regular 4.7 right now.
GLM 4.7 is good enough to be a daily driver but it does frustrate me at times with poor instruction following.
This seems pretty darn good for a 30B model. That's significantly better than the full Qwen3-Coder 480B model at 55.4.
It's still not as accurate as benchmarks on your own workflows, but it's better than the original benchmark. Or any other public benchmarks.
In my ime small tier models are good for simple tasks like translation and trivia answering, but are useless for anything more complex. 70B class and above is where models really start to shine.
I suppose Flash is merely a distillation of that. Filed under mildly interesting for now.
[0] https://z.ai/blog/glm-4.7
Also, according to the gpt-oss model card 20b is 60.7 (GLM claims they got 34 for that model) and 120b is 62.7 on SWE-Bench Verified vs GLM reports 59.7
https://huggingface.co/EssentialAI/rnj-1
https://openrouter.ai/z-ai/glm-4.7-flash/providers
Tolerating this is very bad form from openrouter, as they default-select lowest price -meaning people who just jump into using openrouter and do not know about this fuckery get facepalm'd by perceived model quality.
ssh admin.hotaisle.app
Yes, this should be made easier to just get a VM with it pre-installed. Working on that.
It took me quite some time to figure the magic combination of versions and commits, and to build each dependency successfully to run on an MI325x.
Here is the magic (assuming a 4x)...
My Mac Mini probably isn't up for the task, but in the future I might be interested in a Mac Studio just to churn at long-running data enrichment types of projects