Rob Grant, creator of Red Dwarf, has died

(beyondthejoke.co.uk)

129 points | by nephihaha 1 hour ago

17 comments

  • ColinEberhardt 1 hour ago
    My random claim to fame; I was the support act (juggler) for Norman Lovett (the red dwarf ships computer), for one night only in the Welsh town of Bangor.

    What a life I’ve lived.

    • nephihaha 36 minutes ago
      Yes, I remember him. He briefly had his own show called "I Lovett" or something like that. Also spent time in Bangor back in the mid nineties.
  • JojoFatsani 36 minutes ago
    There was nothing like Red Dwarf on TF (British or American) back then - a laugh-tracked show that could be simultaneously the most hilarious dry wit, not-so-dry bawdy humor, and a compelling and thought-provoking sci-fi action-adventure all at the same time.

    I fell off it after they had that comeback season roughly in 2000 where the whole ship got revived. Then I saw a few clips from a later season where everyone was pretty schlubby. I'll need to track down some way to re-watch the whole thing.

    • nephihaha 11 minutes ago
      I watched the whole lot thanks to lockdown. I used to like up until series six or so, but had a look at the later ones. Yes, the actors certainly all look more "lived in" nowadays.

      The later series/seasons are very uneven, which surprised me. I stopped watching originally around when Chloe Annette's Kochanski was introduced but I was surprised that instead of a steady decline that the quality was very up and down.

  • hansjorg 9 minutes ago
    He's dead Dave. At least he went peacefully in his Jeep.
  • nullhole 1 hour ago
    RIP, thanks for the memories.

    No sci fi effect has ever given me the same sense of wonder that I got from the shot of the camera slowly travelling over the gigantic ship in the Season 1/2 intro.

    Btw: @dang : Grant was the co-creator, alongside Doug Naylor, who is still kicking

    • nephihaha 9 minutes ago
      The intro was actually strangely eerie/bleak. I felt sorry for Lister (I think it is) out there painting the ship. There was kind of a sadness because he had lost pretty much all his friends and you could feel the vastness of space.
  • mrwh 1 hour ago
    It's cold outside

    There's no kind of atmosphere

    I'm all alone

    More or less

    Let me fly Far away from here

    Fun fun fun

    In the sun sun sun

    I want to lie

    Shipwrecked and comatose

    Drinking fresh

    Mango juice

    Goldfish shoals

    Nibbling at my toes

    Fun fun fun

    In the sun sun sun

    Fun fun fun In the sun sun sun

    • danielodievich 1 hour ago
      As fresh immigrant to USA, watching it on local PBS on the gigantic back projection jumbotron TV someone offloaded on us back in mid-90es, it made a huge impact with its absurdity and silliness. I sing "Drinking Fresh Mango Juice" every time I get it out of the fridge, and when my wife and I visited Egypt and got room service with fresh mango juices, it was in heavy rotation. And every time I leave and it's cold outside, I tend to sing "It's cold outside!". RIP
    • nephihaha 7 minutes ago
      For a brief period there it was fashionable to have fish nibbling at your feet (in the 2010s?). Not goldfish shoals although that is probably what Lister wanted to farm in Fiji.
    • zabzonk 1 hour ago
      One of my favourite happy happy songs.

      > Shipwrecked and comatose

      is how I have often felt.

  • ddellacosta 1 hour ago
    As an American, Red Dwarf along with Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy created a deep appreciation both for British humor and funny sci-fi in my adolescent self. I now own the box set on DVD and even have a random Red Dwarf novel I got at a yard sale (I forget which one of them wrote it though).

    RIP Rob! Will be having a vindaloo, lager, and maybe some fish (Fish! Fish! Fish!) later in your honor

    (EDIT: 100% talking about the UK version here, had no idea or forgot there _was_ an American version)

    • afandian 53 minutes ago
      Maybe it was written by:

      > Grant Naylor is a gestalt entity occupying two bodies, one of which lives in north London, the other in south London. The product of a horribly botched genetic-engineering experiment, which took place in Manchester in the late fifties, they try to eke out two existences with only one mind. They attended the same school and the same university, but, for tax reasons, have completely different wives.

      > The first body is called Rob Grant, the second Doug Naylor. Among other things, they spent three years in the mid-eighties as head writers of Spitting Image; wrote Radio Four's award-winning series Son of Cliche; penned the lyrics to a number one single; and created and wrote Red Dwarf for BBC television.

      > They have made a living variously by being ice-cream salesmen, shoe-shop assistants and by attempting to sell dodgy life-assurance policies to close friends. They also spent almost two years on the night shift loading paper into computer printers at a mail-order factory in Ardwick. They can still taste the cheese 'n' onion toasties.

      > Their favourite colour is orange.

      • ddellacosta 50 minutes ago
        Haha I went and actually looked and yep, that's it...no wonder I couldn't remember
        • afandian 48 minutes ago
          Somehow enough fragments of that stayed in my brain since 2004 to google it. My first and last real-life encounter with the word 'gestalt'.
    • beloch 53 minutes ago
      Red Dwarf is an absolute classic, but I think people of all nations can agree that the American version was better off cancelled.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8mlnntKi2no

      Even the second attempt at it, with Star Trek DS9's Terry Farrell (as Cat), was a bad idea.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfJsViD9SjM

      The original was lightning in a bottle.

      • nephihaha 31 minutes ago
        I have watched the American pilot, and one thing I found curious was that the two female characters were the most interesting (Cat and the Computer played by Terry Farrel and Jane Leeves who were both in major series - Deep Space Nine and Frasier). Holly/Computer has been female for much of the British series and Cat did work as a female character. Contrast with the British show which was very male except for computer (sometimes) and Kochanski when she became a regular character (Chloe Annette didn't really work. I wish Clare Grogan had been a regular instead.)
        • ddellacosta 12 minutes ago
          I agree, Clare Grogan is still who I picture when I think of Kochanski tbh, I loved her energy
          • nephihaha 5 minutes ago
            Clare Grogan is definitely who I think of. I couldn't really see Chloe Annette being Kochanski, she was miscast and I don't think she got good scripts.
  • moffers 1 hour ago
    They’re all dead, Dave! What a great franchise.
  • bravoetch 1 hour ago
    I used to stay up late to watch Red Dwarf. [dark reference to the show incoming] Maybe he's moved on to somewhere Better Than Life.
  • thx4allthefish 1 hour ago
    Smeeeeeeeeg head
  • codeulike 45 minutes ago
    Loved the show back in its heyday. From what I remember, the novels are pretty good too
  • dwb 42 minutes ago
    Fab show, great memories! Thanks for the laughs Rob, RIP.
  • hermitcrab 52 minutes ago
    Kryton is one of the greatest characters to ever grace a tv screen.
    • Lio 50 minutes ago
      “It’s a banana. It always has been a banana and always will be a banana. It’s a yellow fruit you unzip and eat the white bits. It’s a banana!“
  • solomonb 1 hour ago
    Wow 2 in one day with Dan Simmons :(

    Rest in peace.

  • alephnerd 1 hour ago
    I'll pour out a lager and grab some chicken vindaloo in his memory.
  • petermcneeley 1 hour ago
    RIP with the calculators.
    • stevekemp 1 hour ago
      Silicon heaven .. hopefully free of talking-toasters.
      • arprocter 38 minutes ago
        Not now, not ever. No toast.
  • busterarm 1 hour ago
    Smeg
  • jl6 1 hour ago
    Damn. Guess I’ll be smoking some kippers in his memory.

    Can we get a black bar?

    On second thoughts, that would mean changing the CSS.

    • tarkin2 1 hour ago
      Ah, there are so many jokes like that which still make me smile. I'm grateful Red Dwarf and his books were part of my childhood.