Grace Hopper's Revenge

(thefuriousopposites.com)

18 points | by ashirviskas 1 hour ago

5 comments

  • stabbles 59 minutes ago
    The TL;DR: code should be easy to audit, not easy to write for humans.

    The rest is AI-fluff:

    > This isn't about optimizing for humans. It's about infrastructure

    > But the bottleneck was never creation. It was always verification.

    > For software, the load-bearing interface isn't actually code. Code is implementation.

    > It's not just the Elixir language design that's remarkable, it's the entire ecosystem.

    > The 'hard' languages were never hard. They were just waiting for a mind that didn't need movies.

    • dist-epoch 47 minutes ago
      Man you are bad at TL;DR;-ing, you completely left out the main point article makes comparing stateful/mutating object oriented programming that humans like and pure functional oriented programing that presumably according to author LLMs thrive in.
  • ashirviskas 1 hour ago
    I found it interesting that Elixir scores so high, but I'm not sure whether I can agree with the cause.
    • Bolwin 43 minutes ago
      That benchmark is useless for comparing languages because the tasks are not the same across languages
    • gostsamo 1 hour ago
      how can you argue with so many assertive sentences in the article? they leave no space for critical thinking.
  • skywhopper 32 minutes ago
    This article takes a very tiny, questionable bit of data and extrapolates a lot of iffy assertions.

    In general I’m tired of the “humans need never, and should never look at the code” LLM triumphalism articles. Do these folks ever work with real systems, I wonder.

    • dist-epoch 20 minutes ago
      I remember when "real programmers" were supposed to look at the assembly code generated by compilers because it was bloated, inefficient, and totally unsuitable to use in a real system.

      Cue in "non-determinism" retort.

      • chrisrhoden 2 minutes ago
        I think the problem is less determinism than predictability. Hashing algorithms are deterministic.

        Will people start .gitignore-ing their src directories and only save prompts?

  • Chris2048 5 minutes ago
    > We built objects with identity and state because that’s how we experience reality

    I mean, we called them objects, but coupling related state (and functions) together seem an objectively (object-ively) way to group data, it's literally just dict-based organisation.

  • muskstinks 6 minutes ago
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