Iliad fragment found in Roman-era mummy

(thehistoryblog.com)

74 points | by wise_blood 2 days ago

5 comments

  • staplung 4 minutes ago
    Sadly, the article says nothing about how old the fragment is or how it compares to other early copies of the Iliad. Somewhat amazingly, the earliest complete copy of the Iliad is from around 950 C.E.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Venetus_A

  • ajxs 1 hour ago
    In case anyone doesn't know, Oxyrhynchus is a major source of archaeological discoveries. Particularly ancient (Ptolemaic/Roman Egypt) papyrus fragments recovered from an ancient landfill on the outskirts of the city. Notably some of the earliest-known Christian textual artefacts were found there (the actual earliest fragments came from elsewhere in Egypt). It turns out that Egypt's hot and dry climate provides the perfect environment for their long-term preservation.
    • thaumasiotes 1 hour ago
      > It turns out that Egypt's hot and dry climate provides the perfect environment for their long-term preservation.

      Cold and dry would be just as good. It's the dryness that matters.

      • vlovich123 29 minutes ago
        heat speeds up oxidation/ accelerates reactions but also decreases relative humidity for a constant moisture constant.
  • horsh1 26 minutes ago
    So why would they bury a man with a book?
    • callamdelaney 7 minutes ago
      Maybe it's more like how they used to wrap fish and chips in newspaper
    • quantummagic 14 minutes ago
      Why do we bury men in a suit?
  • notorandit 1 hour ago
    I Hope more and more fragments of anything lost is found.

    The burn down of Alexandria library was a pity

    • bluGill 37 minutes ago
    • jmyeet 46 minutes ago
      This is a common refrain but in reality I'm not sure it made much difference. Papyrus just doesn't age well and most manuscripts from this era would've been on papyrus.

      What really decided what texts survived and what didn't was monastic traditions in in the Dark Ages and Middle Ages [1]. At this time, a monk might spend their entire life transcribing a particularly long manuscript. The materials were also expensive. So monasteries were selective in what got retain and unsurprisingly it skewed heavily to texts of religious significance and then to texts of significance to, say, Roman and Greek tradition and history given that monasteries were European.

      [1]: https://spokenpast.com/articles/medieval-monks-erased-preser...

      • nonethewiser 38 minutes ago
        Thanks for sharing. Maybe not as common as you think. I never heard that before.
  • lostlogin 27 minutes ago
    Imagine digging in that material. Tunnelling that out would be awful.