Huh, I wonder why they made their own IDE instead of integrating with Sly/SLIME. Not trying to knock the project, just genuinely curious. Writing a whole editor sounds like a lot of work.
I like the choice of Iosevka as a font, though.
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One value I do see myself getting from Mine is as an example Coalton project. Last time I tried Coalton I couldn't figure out how to get ASDF to load standalone Coalton files. Now I have a working example to copy.
> However, the above is a tall order for someone just wanting to dip their toes in, to see if they have any interest in Coalton or Common Lisp. A couple hours on the weekend is easily sunk into getting configurations right, and the right subsystems installed, and the right paths setup, just so the first line of code can be executed.
> mine is not Emacs. It aims to eliminate all of that, and be a Coalton/Lisp-first development environment, whose only job is to be a Coalton/Lisp-first development environment. But more than that, it needs to be accessible. A non-programmer should find it easy to download, install, and run mine with nothing more than a download link.
Interesting! Looks like the IDE itself is written in Coalton (https://github.com/coalton-lang/coalton/tree/main/mine) and you can either bring your own terminal or use the standalone version which uses Tauri and Xterm.js.
I live in Emacs, but I will give Mine a try when get a free hour. I read about Coalton in X and follow the author but I haven't invested time yet to try out.
If you're a power user, the sooner you learn Emacs the better as the synergies with any Lisp language (particularly Common Lisp) are simply too strong to be ignored and there is no contemporary alternative that rivals it.
For new users, this looks like a welcome alternative to messy things like Lem that never really worked very well for me.
I keep hoping the Common Lisp community will step up and deliver better Visual Studio Code support. Asking new devs to learn Emacs, alongside all of Lisp's idiosyncrasies, is too tall an order. I bro'd through it in the 90s but today's new devs have been spoiled by modern UIs (and that's a good thing) and shouldn't have to cope with Emacs and its stubborn retroness.
Seeing something like this is a step in the right direction.
As a programmer for over 2 decades, I permanently stopped using IDEs and text editors this year. It’s really cool to see projects support legacy concepts and ideas though. Love this!
Two decades professionally here too (and nearly three in terms of programming as a whole), and I still use ‘em. Reviewing and adjusting, they make for quite a good experience even in agent-first development with the various nice extensions.
Also I still have to write code by hand, because there’s a whole bunch of edits and adjustments that I’m far faster at shrug
IMHO, It's a better time than ever to develop a new IDE. Just make one that cares deeply about performance (i.e loads instantly, and always has a snappy response). Make features easy to control. Allow me to turn on only the things I care about and to shut the rest off.
I can't even remember the last time I was impressed by the speed of an IDE, though we have more computing power now than ever. I'd love to see someone new come in and wipe the floor with all of the current contenders.
It’s not awkward at all. It’s a fun project and neat. I support these types of projects. I guess I’m being voted down because people hate IDEs and text editors now.
I think it’s wrong to trash this project just because it’s an older concept.
I like the choice of Iosevka as a font, though.
Edit: One value I do see myself getting from Mine is as an example Coalton project. Last time I tried Coalton I couldn't figure out how to get ASDF to load standalone Coalton files. Now I have a working example to copy.
> However, the above is a tall order for someone just wanting to dip their toes in, to see if they have any interest in Coalton or Common Lisp. A couple hours on the weekend is easily sunk into getting configurations right, and the right subsystems installed, and the right paths setup, just so the first line of code can be executed.
> mine is not Emacs. It aims to eliminate all of that, and be a Coalton/Lisp-first development environment, whose only job is to be a Coalton/Lisp-first development environment. But more than that, it needs to be accessible. A non-programmer should find it easy to download, install, and run mine with nothing more than a download link.
For new users, this looks like a welcome alternative to messy things like Lem that never really worked very well for me.
General-purpose editor/IDE with high expansibility in Common Lisp
Seeing something like this is a step in the right direction.
Also I still have to write code by hand, because there’s a whole bunch of edits and adjustments that I’m far faster at shrug
IMHO, It's a better time than ever to develop a new IDE. Just make one that cares deeply about performance (i.e loads instantly, and always has a snappy response). Make features easy to control. Allow me to turn on only the things I care about and to shut the rest off.
I can't even remember the last time I was impressed by the speed of an IDE, though we have more computing power now than ever. I'd love to see someone new come in and wipe the floor with all of the current contenders.
I think it’s wrong to trash this project just because it’s an older concept.