15 comments

  • nomel 4 minutes ago
    Edison, famously, solved problems in a lights dream state [1].

    [1] https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/thomas-edisons-na...

  • Xeoncross 52 minutes ago
    AI does the work during the day and we learn while sleeping. Society doesn't collapse from ignorance. We have a new movie plot gentlemen.
  • andai 5 minutes ago
    > In perhaps the most striking example of learning during sleep, Konkoly, Paller, and several collaborators witnessed what amounted to conversations with people who were in the midst of dreams. Independent lab groups in the U.S., France, Germany, and the Netherlands asked lucid dreamers to answer yes-or-no questions and solve simple math problems. Electrodes measuring body and brain activity verified that the participants were not awake. Martin Dresler, a sleep researcher at the Donders Institute, who ran the Dutch experiments, said that they were able to verbally deliver new information to the sleeping mind—and to receive responses. Some people could remember the questions they had been asked when they woke up. “This is a form of very complex learning,” he told me.

    https://xkcd.com/269/

  • jesse_dot_id 44 minutes ago
    Lucid dreaming is a cool concept but I've never been able to pull it off. I still try, though!
    • JumpCrisscross 35 minutes ago
      It sort of just happened to me a few years ago. It’s neat—flying is fun. (As is the opposite, when it just doesn’t work and I wake up sort of laughing at myself for having spent, presumably, hours jumping around in my dream.)

      But at least for me, the price was dreams, the moment I go lucid, ceasing to be self directed. I get that I’m in a movie, and I have to always create the next step. Nothing surprises or horrifies anymore. (If I’m lucid.) I have to kind of create my own magic, which isn’t particularly restful.

      • karmakurtisaani 31 minutes ago
        Yep, same. The dream gets incredibly boring after you get control of it.
    • zeta0134 6 minutes ago
      My tell is to recognize any room with a piano in it. I naturally want to sit down and play this piano, but the keys are totally wrong. No problem, I'll look around and, lo and behold, dozens more pianos all... with the keys in the wrong places. I can't play anything. "Oh, this again. I must be dreaming. How frustrating."
    • satvikpendem 20 minutes ago
      Keep a dream journal. There any many methods for achieving it but if you keep a dream journal long enough you'll start getting consistent lucid dreams.
    • magiclaw 15 minutes ago
      I was really into it in my early 20's. One way to tell if you are mentally in the state to lucid dream is if you no longer feel tired. One night, after a grueling hike, I was completely exhausted when I went to bed. I closed my eyes, and moments later all my exhaustion just vanished, and I began to explore the space.
      • galleywest200 5 minutes ago
        Another way is to try to see what the clock faces say in your dream. Also, see if the light switches behave as you would expect.
    • bryanrasmussen 28 minutes ago
  • petra 11 minutes ago
    Have anybody managed to use sleep to learn language? How ?
  • jboggan 8 minutes ago
    My wife used to think that I had terrible sleep apnea because I'd repeatedly quit breathing for a minute or two at a time and then gasp for air, but it turned out I was just dreaming about freediving for lobsters.
  • CrzyLngPwd 38 minutes ago
  • thenthenthen 39 minutes ago
    Two months ago my partner recorded me speaking in my sleep. I was speaking fluent Mandarin. I always thought sleep time is used for learning (among healing etc), but now I am convinced.
    • detribaby 32 minutes ago
      Well you’ll have to give us more. Do you speak Mandarin at all?
      • consumer451 14 minutes ago
        And, what was the partner's ability to benchmark? What is their level of familiarity with the language?

        I would love to believe.

  • zombot 1 minute ago
    Now there is no excuse anymore to be working less than 24 hours a day.
  • squibonpig 30 minutes ago
    It's gonna be really sad in 10-15 years when all the sc bros are hustling and grindsetting their dreams away.
    • notahacker 4 minutes ago
      Can't wait for the LinkedIn posts about their day to start even earlier than the 4am workout and 5am meditation with strategic dreaming between 1am and 3am.

      Type LUCID in the comments for a how to guide...

    • magiclaw 23 minutes ago
      Now that's dystopian!
      • fizzbar 16 minutes ago
        Top performers manufacture 33% more hours in the day thanks to this one weird trick!
  • redsocksfan45 1 hour ago
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  • tkfoss 1 hour ago
    tl:dr "Andrillon warned against trying to harness the sleeping mind in the service of the waking world." https://www.nature.com/articles/s41539-024-00276-0
    • econ 34 minutes ago
      Proper sleep definitely isn't optional.
  • metalman 1 hour ago
    There is no such thing as "should". The thing is possible, therefore humans will do it. The only question is, who is we?
    • azan_ 1 hour ago
      Well, you shouldn't smoke yet people do it. I think the article posits question whether we should in similar spirit.
  • econ 1 hour ago
    After two weeks I woke up and didn't notice it was German tv. Eventually after 5 minutes an unknown word came along. I still can't speak it.

    When 13 i use to code till 1-2 am. In school I slept with my eyes open till 11. The information was stored and organized but I was unaware of it. I remember tests where all of the questions talked about topics I never spend a conscious thought on. But I knew all the answers. Quite the surreal experience.

    Teachers sometimes wondered if I was still in the room or they just asked questions. My mind would grep the most recent chunk of speech, parse it and respond as if nothing unusual was going on. The mind raced but I talked slowly to portray the slight delay more natural.

    I learned you don't want other people's bullshit in your head. It needs to be questioned first.