YC's Biggest Scandals

(ycombinator.fyi)

119 points | by laserduck 4 hours ago

22 comments

  • tptacek 45 minutes ago
    YC has funded over 5000 companies, and this page catalogs 39 that failed, many of which, on the sites own terms, are simply business failures, with no additional drama. I don't think the authors of the site realize the case they're actually making here.
    • dadrian 31 minutes ago
      There's something ironic about vibe-coding an anti-YC site. They're why OpenAI exists!
  • tibbar 1 hour ago
    Scrolling down, a bunch of these seem to just be "the startup shut down after getting customers", which doesn't seem particularly scandalous to me?
  • rohitpaulk 1 hour ago
    Only a portion of these are "scandals", the rest are just usual startup failures.
    • jnovek 52 minutes ago
      As an alum from the ancient days I take issue with many of the companies that YC funds these days. Flock? 9 Mothers? This shit is dystopian and I hate that I’m somehow even tangentially associated with it.
      • ianm218 45 minutes ago
        9 mothers appears to do defense from drones which seems completely ethical. What is dystopian about that?
        • delbronski 1 minute ago
          A company named 9 mothers, which sells a service to stop artificially intelligent machines from falling from sky and blowing up everything… funded by another company that lures smart young men and women with billionaire dreams that wreak havoc on society.

          Not dystopian at all.

        • varenc 10 minutes ago
          They make a very fast "AI powered" turret shotgun. It automatically selects, aims, and shoots down targets. I imagine this is great for shooting down swarms of small fiber optic or autonomous drones impervious to electronic attacks. But automated weapons like this can easily pivot into uses besides anti-drone. Taking humans out of the loop on deadly kinetic weapons is concerning. But personally, I don't really see any other viable defense against small drone swarms.
        • levocardia 24 minutes ago
          Probably the worry that the jump from "we defend against slaughterbots" to "we built a better slaughterbot" is just around the corner
  • danabramov 1 hour ago
    LLM-designed sites like this are always so pompous. The obnoxious format does a disservice to what you’re trying to present.
    • eiiot 52 minutes ago
      Sometimes I will see a domain on YC and immediately know it will be LLM-designed before clicking on the link. This was one of those projects. Wish they were more human and more understated.
    • williamtrask 1 hour ago
      fwiw - i think the design looks good.
      • danabramov 1 hour ago
        I mean mostly the writing. The visual design is fine but the grandiose tone is clearly LLM, as well as attempt to be “data-driven” to an absurd degree.

        The screaming “DAMAGE” blocks, “body count”, “(EXHIBIT)”, “7.8X MORE SCANDALS PER YEAR”, all of this looks extremely stupid, screams LLM, and undermines the points the authors want to make.

        • tibbar 1 hour ago
          LLMs often seem to have trouble determining the severity of a bug/incident/problem in a vacuum. If you run an LLM over 1000 items in parallel and ask "is this bad," it will come up with reasons for it to be bad way more than it might if it were considering all 1000 at the same time.
  • fillskills 50 minutes ago
    Some of these don't seem like "YC scandals": - Zenefits: A non-YC company put a spy in Zenefits. - Pebble: Still loved by many, just had black swan event of Apple launching a better product - Cruise: Looks very much like a GM issue.
  • LewisVerstappen 48 minutes ago
    Putting things that are clearly not scandals damages the credibility of this site and masks the actual scandals.
  • islewis 3 minutes ago
    Pretty clearly slop, with some of the scandals make no sense. Take Ripplings "scandal":

    > Parker Conrad's redemption arc after Zenefits hit a plot twist when Rippling sued competitor Deel for planting an undercover spy inside Rippling who was paid €5,000/month by Deel's CEO to steal trade secrets . The DOJ opened a criminal investigation. Deel allegedly ran the same playbook at crypto HR startup Toku. YC uses Rippling for their own HR — awkward.

    I am curious what the motivation for creating this was

  • datagram 18 minutes ago
    Between every surface being a link and the needless redacted text flourishes, this site is kind of awful to navigate on mobile.
    • toxik 1 minute ago
      Beyond awful, and it's LLM slop.
  • adrianwaj 36 minutes ago
    - allow claiming of each by founders

    - release source code of each and have new section: "twinned"

    - enable domain, trademark and socials acquisition and have new section: "revisited"

    - enable full acquisition (including business name) and have new section: "returned"

    - previous 3 becomes "legacy"

    - don't limit to YC

  • nextos 48 minutes ago
    uBiome is probably the biggest one: https://ycombinator.fyi/exhibit/ubiome

    A shame, because the idea was good. And, with a bit of patience, it was doable.

  • orliesaurus 24 minutes ago
    Those are ONLY the public ones, I wonder how much more is swiped under the rug
  • raincole 35 minutes ago
    Yeah, we know how the economy would look like if the society considers business failures "scandals."
  • frakkingcylons 1 hour ago
    If all that happened to your startup is that you couldn't get traction or compete, that's not a scandal.
  • off-and-on 30 minutes ago
    This is one of the most annoying click-baity mechanism I have ever come across.
  • wewewedxfgdf 42 minutes ago
    If you do mass investment then it's almost impossible for everything to go perfectly.
  • thekevan 39 minutes ago
    I wish there was a way to see how many grifters YC has under their umbrella compared to the general population of startups in general.

    My gut says the general population has a larger percentage.

  • hotfixguru 1 hour ago
    > DAMAGE: MIT LICENSE VIOLATED

    .. what?

    https://choosealicense.com/licenses/mit/

    • whiplash451 59 minutes ago
      You can violate the MIT license by forgetting to preserve it. Apparently this was the case here.
      • tptacek 41 minutes ago
        So the damage here really is literally "MIT license violated".
  • EGreg 1 hour ago
    I looked — 99% of them involve AI
  • yieldcrv 53 minutes ago
    web2isgoinggreat
  • asadm 1 hour ago
    meh. someone butt-hurt from rejection would make something like this.
  • theobeers 1 hour ago
    While I agree that YC appears rotten to the core at this point, it’s almost impossible to sustain a criticism of the accelerator because they make so many little investments. No matter what you accuse them of, they’ll dismiss it by saying you’re cherry-picking. I have to admit, it’s a brilliant strategy to avoid any kind of accountability.
    • tptacek 39 minutes ago
      No, it's not impossible. All you have to do is make a case. Here, by the numbers, the case being made is a 3.9% failure rate, less than half of which is scandalous, all of which appear to boil down to "YC should have known better than to invest in these particular founders". Make a better case! If they're "rotten to the core", that should be easy.

      I don't think the number of investments they make is your real hurdle here. I think it's that you'll have to confront people familiar with the status quo ante of YC.

      • theobeers 20 minutes ago
        Mr. Ptacek, a) I have no affiliation with OP, and b) do you know what my actual position is (not presupposing that you care)? It's that I don't know anyone who has been inspired by anything that YC has funded in a very long time. The supermajority of these startups that don't make headlines for being scams is, in a way, even sadder.

        I also think it's pointless to howl at the sky about how depressing this is. It's just the current reality of SV. I'm not going to pretend that what a16z is funding is any better (or worse).

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    • sieabahlpark 50 minutes ago
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