16 comments

  • A_D_E_P_T 7 minutes ago
    Amazon's attitude towards its Kindle device customers is one of lofty disregard.

    Every time they announce new Kindle products, half of the comments are like "I hope they have buttons," "I hope they bring back the Oasis," etc.

    But they appear to exult in dashing the hopes of their customers, or at the very least they don't care about them at all. They've doubled down on no-key devices with stupid pens, pointless and poorly-implemented color, and tiny or excessively large form factors with little in between. It's kind of crazy just how much they don't seem to care.

    The subtext of the article indicates that the problem isn't discontinuing support alone, but discontinuing support without offering those customers a reasonable replacement for their old devices that had keys and buttons. (Even if it's just a couple of buttons.)

  • wedg_ 5 minutes ago
    I have a Kindle which I think is surviving this purge. But after looking at alternatives like the Kobo, I wondered where people got their books?

    Ofc there's the high seas, but I'd quite like to support the authors and I can afford ~£10 for a book now and then. But are there any stores as good/convenient as the Amazon one?

    • Den_VR 2 minutes ago
      Inversely, try to use a kindle as a Korean.
  • WithinReason 39 minutes ago
    Just got an xteink x4 and flashed crosspoint on it, I've been tuning fonts by modifying the font generator and now it renders great.

    https://www.xteink.com/products/xteink-x4

    • dabeeeenster 22 minutes ago
      Love my x4! I saw 1.3 allows you to bring in your own fonts - any suggestions?
  • comboy 54 minutes ago
    I was looking for a good rationalization to leave the ecosystem, one-click e-books is great and having old device that I can take anywhere not caring about it getting beaten up even more was another major advantage.

    Removing some old book I had was the first major red flag.

  • bananaflag 1 hour ago
    Joke's on them, I keep the Kindle permanently on airplane mode anyway.
    • cbdevidal 39 minutes ago
      Not sure if you’re joking but is it possible to even do that? I understand some books are kept on their cloud servers and only some get downloaded.
      • thih9 19 minutes ago
        Yes, it’s possible. Note: no downloads work in airplane mode. Cable works just as well though.
      • iLoveOncall 17 minutes ago
        No, you choose what is downloaded locally. You can also get .mobi files and copy them to the kindle directly.
    • moffkalast 42 minutes ago
      The first time I got an ad on mine I did that and switched to the Calibre + z-library workflow. It's been most of a decade since.

      It's like people have to be taught the same lesson about SAAS over and over and over again. Like what did they expect, to not get rug pulled eventually? Crazy. You own your shit or you don't. Simple as.

  • kyranjamie 1 hour ago
    My 14 year old Kindle functions so perfectly I've no desire to upgrade. This is exactly why KOReader and all the jailbreaks exist.
  • prvc 1 hour ago
    >Amazon said it had supported the devices for 14 years or more and could not keep doing so indefinitely. "Technology has come a long way in that time," said a spokesperson.

    Wasn't the original concept of the Kindle that it shouldn't need to be replaced by newer models?

    • kuboble 1 hour ago
      I can and will still use mine to read files.

      What is discontinued is integration with Amazon account. Which seems fair to me to be fair.

      • wrxd 47 minutes ago
        Less fair when they sold an integrated device and store
  • thih9 22 minutes ago
    My kindle will not be aware of it. It has been in airplane mode ever since I bought it.

    Its clock no longer tells correct time; but it’s fine, a book doesn’t have to do that - and I have a watch.

  • onidj 1 hour ago
    Having used an early kindle and a recent kindle, they are incredibly similar. One of the main innovations of the new models appears to be adverts you have to pay to get rid of.
    • fodkodrasz 1 hour ago
      Also gradually phasing out support of formats like mobi, in such subtle ways that if you open a mobi file you cannot go back to the library, but have to cold-reboot your device...

      My current kindle is my third one, and is the last. I will never ever pay for a kindle to Amazon, due to its user hostility.

      Oh, and also you cannot move ebooks between accounts, even not with a lot of friction, eg. support tickets, which would be a fair way to game piracy and unwanted lending, which was some inconvinience for me in a situation. Not a huge monetary loss for me, rather a reminder that when you pay to Amazon (or Valve, or any other contemporary DRM-burdened vendor) you are only leasing...

    • kuboble 1 hour ago
      My kindle from 2012 used to have ads you needed to pay for to get rid of. It was sold as separate product with or without ads at a time. I had one with ads.

      I keep it offline in airplane mode permanently from 2016 and haven't seen a single ad in a long long time.

      • IshKebab 59 minutes ago
        I have a similar one and I never bothered to pay to get rid of the ads or keep it in aeroplane mode.

        The ads are only shown while it's off, they're static black and white images, and 99% of the time they're for books. Totally unobjectionable.

        If they were in the actual UI and for stuff like cars and perfume I might mind, but they aren't so I never cared.

    • madarco 1 hour ago
      Actually, the old Kindle had physical buttons, which I find more ergonomic when reading in bed
      • gruturo 1 hour ago
        That's what your nose is for. (I'm quite skilled at advancing or going back by gently tapping the kindle against my face. It helps that I'm very nearsighted so it's kind of already there)
        • cbdevidal 27 minutes ago
          Same here. I read your comment from two inches away lol
  • CGamesPlay 35 minutes ago
    14 years support window is so insanely good. But as it goes...

    You either die a hero or you live long enough to become the villain.

    • azalemeth 15 minutes ago
      My local library has some dead tree format books with a 500 year support window. Or dead animal or dead reed format books with more like a 2000-year support window.

      Planned obsolescence is always bad.

    • generic92034 17 minutes ago
      Maybe for ebook readers, but not for books.
  • arikrahman 52 minutes ago
    Glad I went the Kobo route. Koreader beats Kindle any day of the week.
  • majorbugger 20 minutes ago
    Two of my paperwhites died so i took the opportunity to switch to kobo and couldn't be happier.
  • dev_l1x_be 1 hour ago
    Deadwood loyalists raise an eyebrow and keep reading.
  • cbdevidal 29 minutes ago
    Crap like this is why I 1.) export my Kindle books to plain PDF 2.) use a Nook Simple Touch. They work perfectly well 100% offline and are CHEAP now.

    Primarily use two of these for a prepper book cache. (Two is one and one is none.) The battery lasts about a month on low cost chargers, and a pair of 32GB SD cards holds my entire collection. (A redundant pair since two is one.) Whole thing sits in an EMP bag in the bugout bag of my car, so I always have my library everywhere I go.

    Exporting to PDF used to be pretty straightforward; the newest encryption is a lot harder to bypass but is still possible:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/Calibre/comments/1q1uza4/successful...

  • ajdegol 40 minutes ago
    The price of convenience.
  • Weryj 52 minutes ago
    If only there was a way to download e-books and upload them to a Kindle with Calibre.