Unauthorized alert sent to cell phones across Brazil

(cnn.com)

69 points | by zdw 3 hours ago

7 comments

  • p0w3n3d 1 hour ago
    TBH phones in Poland allow to call you "from" an arbitrary number (i.e. display it on your phone). Also send SMS with arbitrary source.

    This is being used by scammers who call you and tell they are from police bank etc

    • lxgr 1 hour ago
      This works in many countries, since the signalling protocols historically assumed a trusted small set of participants, not unlike email – with similar consequences once those assumptions became less and less true.
    • kakacik 39 minutes ago
      I've worked a bit on the app which calls major telco provider directly. It was a basic web service call, and sender could be entered as anything. This is basic property of cellular networks, no more safety than say standard email.
  • initramfs 26 minutes ago
    "The message sent was of the ‘Extreme Alert’ type and contained the word ‘misanthropy’ – which means hatred towards humanity. It is probably a hacker attack,” the agency’s statement said."

    As this happens whenever there is an intrusion reported in the press, the word "hacker" is often misused:

    "There is another group of people who loudly call themselves hackers, but aren't. These are people (mainly adolescent males) who get a kick out of breaking into computers and phreaking the phone system. Real hackers call these people ‘crackers’ and want nothing to do with them. Real hackers mostly think crackers are lazy, irresponsible, and not very bright, and object that being able to break security doesn't make you a hacker any more than being able to hotwire cars makes you an automotive engineer. Unfortunately, many journalists and writers have been fooled into using the word ‘hacker’ to describe crackers; this irritates real hackers no end.

    The basic difference is this: hackers build things, crackers break them."

    http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

    • rzz3 15 minutes ago
      At this point, it’s just you misusing the word. You WERE correct; it did mean the builders rather than the breakers. But to greater society outside of the tech industry, hacking is hacking, they don’t need a word to describe builders, and crackers sounds dumb and no one outside the tech industry would know what you were talking about. A cracker is a snack and a dated slang word to refer to white people.
    • pluc 18 minutes ago
      Cracker News was taken
    • UqWBcuFx6NV4r 17 minutes ago
      I didn’t realise that people still fought this fight. it’s time to drop it, dude. It’s truly blatant language prescriptivism at this point.
      • initramfs 5 minutes ago
        It's not so much a fight as a reminder of the technical words that actually distinguish one type from another. Are hackers considered ethical in the press today? 40 years of movies and press articles hasn't exactly made the idea of "white hat" a known term. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_hat_(computer_security)

        It's kind of like Australia or the UK saying kids are "hacking" their PCs to use VPNS. There can be a very legitimate use of tools, but the portrayal of users bypassing blocks could just as easily be painted in a negative light.

        One time someone made a joke or observation, 20 years or so ago, that their Myspace page was "hacked" because someone "posted on their wall". It's obviously not that misused, but just labeled that way when misinformed.

  • Scoundreller 1 hour ago
  • throwaway81523 1 hour ago
    There was a Larry Niven story where if you tried to call a certain guy, every phone in South America would ring instead. Anyone remember which story it was? The phone thing was just a throwaway line, not a significant plot point.
    • p0w3n3d 1 hour ago
      It might have been the Ringworld

      "Well?"Nessus began to pace the floor. "Many disqualify themselves by obvious bad luck. Of the rest, none seem to be available. When we call, they are out. When we call back, the phone computer gives us a bad connection. When we ask for any member of the Brandt family, every phone in South America rings. There have been complaints. It is very frustrating."

      https://www.naneahoffman.com/the-blog/shelf-care-alien-archi...

      • jagged-chisel 28 minutes ago
        “ When we ask for any member of the Brandt family, every phone in South America rings.”

        That sounds like the computer had a bad solution to “find a Brandt.”

        The comment with the request to find this reference had me thinking it would be a single phone number misconfigured to call a large population.

    • shagie 1 hour ago
      Ringworld. https://sciencemeetsfiction.com/2021/06/20/ringworld-theory-...

          “When we call, they are out. When we call back, the phone computer gives us a bad connection. When we ask for any member of the Brandt family, every phone in South America rings.”
  • mseepgood 2 hours ago
    Of all the messages they could have sent they chose the most boring.
    • neko_ranger 1 hour ago
      lets play a game HN, what would be the best alert to send?

      mine would be something scifi, like "ALIENS HAVE LANDED" or "PLUTO DECLARES WAR"

      • tetha 1 hour ago
        The world needs more confusing positivity.

        "You are beautiful and wonderful - keep going! (unlike this systems security)"

        • falcor84 53 minutes ago
          Keep on keeping on.
      • loloquwowndueo 23 minutes ago
        ALL YOUR BASE ARE BELONG TO US
      • dgellow 1 hour ago
      • michaeljx 1 hour ago
        METEOR STRIKE IN 8 MINUTES
        • Z0rp 1 hour ago
          DONT BELIEVE THEM
          • worble 1 hour ago
            Any of the Sims 1 prank phone calls would be amazing
      • byte_0 17 minutes ago
        Wake up, Neo...
      • zarflax 7 minutes ago
        "Help I'm trapped in a broadcast center"
      • lysace 1 hour ago
        Most dangerous one:

        "This is Army Commander Tomás Miguel Ribeiro Paiva. We have chosen to take command of the country to protect you against serious crimes against the people that we have become aware of. Remain calm and continue with your daily duties."

        (Except in Brazilian Portuguese.)

        • marcosdumay 1 hour ago
          Scary stuff.

          I guess so scary that there isn't a single person willing to try it. But yeah, that is the most dangerous one possible.

      • crtasm 48 minutes ago
        Tom has added you as a friend!
      • Kyselica 1 hour ago
        “BRAZIL ELIMINATED FROM WORLD CUP”
        • munchler 12 minutes ago
          This would create more chaos than any other suggestion so far. Well done.
      • shagie 1 hour ago
        I got a new job! from seank
      • auggierose 1 hour ago
        The truth is out there!
      • cURLSagan 1 hour ago
        THE DISPLAY IS A LIE
      • tedk-42 1 hour ago
        ARGENTINA IS BETTER THAN BRAZIL
      • mckirk 1 hour ago
        "THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO CAUSE FOR ALARM"
      • harrisoned 1 hour ago
        "PIX will be discontinued today"
      • stavros 41 minutes ago
        "Due to deteriorating economic conditions, we have decided to abolish currency altogether. The Real is now worth nothing. All trade will henceforth be performed exclusively in gold."
      • themafia 1 hour ago
        "ALL DEBTS HAVE BEEN ERASED. JUBILEE."
      • paulddraper 54 minutes ago
        FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT
      • spacebacon 55 minutes ago
        [dead]
    • AlienRobot 1 hour ago
      At least it wasn't a crypto scam.
  • knuppar 43 minutes ago
    misantropia é um perigo rapaziada
  • jpablo 1 hour ago
    The power to send mass messages to a whole country is the worst thing google/apple have given to governments across the world.
    • woodruffw 1 hour ago
      This implies that governments didn’t already have this ability, which appears to be largely untrue? To my understanding, many countries already had emergency messaging systems, and mobile integrations are just a way of modernizing them.

      (It seems exceedingly good that the government can warn every civilian about natural disasters, etc.)

    • murderfs 1 hour ago
      These aren't from Google or Apple, they're from the wireless providers: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cell_Broadcast