12 comments

  • FelixKunzJr 25 minutes ago
    Is there any way to filter the lines? There are so many lines it's hard to see what's going on. But definitely interesting.
    • hbyel 2 minutes ago
      Thanks, you can filter by source in the search panel already.
  • theroadnotbacon 6 hours ago
    Huh! Was hoping to get, for example, a sense of scale of cultural artifacts stolen from Korea by the Japanese. But I don't see any provenance descriptions for Japanese institutions. Either way, this is super cool. Thank you for sharing this.
    • hbyel 5 hours ago
      Fair catch, it only pulls from institutions with open access APIs (Met, V&A, SMB Berlin, AIC). Not aware of an equivalent from Japanese museums, if you know one, happy to add it.
      • leobg 4 hours ago
        In that case, the map looks misleading, doesn’t it? It looks as though London and Berlin, for example, stand out as having dislocated disproportionately many artifacts from around the world. And on the other hand, Paris looks innocent. But in truth, London and Berlin are just being honest about it giving you open access to the data whereas Paris doesn’t. So perhaps it would be better to mark cities that do provide data with, say, a green dot. This also helps the visual understanding of the direction of the transfer. And it would make it clear at a glance that Paris is not innocent, but that Paris is simply lacking data.
        • hbyel 3 hours ago
          Fair point, and a good idea. A visual marker distinguishing "has open data" from "doesn't" would meaningfully reduce that distortion. Adding it to the list.
        • NoboruWataya 2 hours ago
          > London and Berlin are just being honest about it giving you open access to the data

          A small subset of the data. If all London museums were included (such as the British Museum, for example) there would be a LOT more lines going to London.

  • txzl 5 hours ago
    I think much more lines should go to Moscow. At least from such places as Crimea. But I see you covered only western/euro-american institutions.
    • hbyel 5 hours ago
      Correct, scoped to western/euro-american museums as noted in the post, it’s just where I started. Open to expanding if there’s good open data to pull from.
  • iamacyborg 6 hours ago
    One day I really should dig up my great great great great grandfather’s[^1] diaries to see first hand how he justified bringing back so much stuff to the UK.

    [^1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Richard_Hamilton

    • fkdk 5 hours ago
      “To arrive at a just estimate of a renowned man’s character one must judge it by the standards of his time, not ours.”
      • mad_tortoise 2 hours ago
        Crap quotes like this is what people use to justify slavery, fascism, genocide, apartheid.
    • leobg 4 hours ago
      You know that they exist, you know where they are, and you’ve never read or digitized them? Or was that sarcasm?
      • iamacyborg 3 hours ago
        They’re at my aunts house, I’ve just not had a chance to read them or ask my cousin to digitise them and send them to me.
        • leobg 23 minutes ago
          Looks like you've got some real history there. Think about it. You might even be able to hack together an Ask My Ancestor chatbot. Heck, I’d build it for you. The scamming and the OCR are going to be the hardest parts I imagine.
  • arendtio 4 hours ago
    > Coming from a design background

    From a UX perspective, it is very weird to place the toggle button for the right panel at the top of the left panel... After I gave up to find a way to close the right panel, I found that button a few minutes later, when I looked around for other interactive elements.

    • hbyel 3 hours ago
      thanks, agreed, will fix :)
  • potamic 5 hours ago
    This is fantastic visualization!

    I couldn't figure out from the UI but is there a way to filter the map? Say, I only want to see things going out of Cusco or I only want to see where things end up in Berlin?

    It would also be nice to have some directionality to the lines to indicate source and destination, perhaps a colour or lightness gradient or something.

    • hbyel 4 hours ago
      Thanks! You actually can filter by source already, search lets you filter arcs by place/site. Destination filtering technically works too, via Collections, but that only makes sense while there are a handful, once it’s hundreds it’ll need its own proper destination filter. Good call on the color/gradient distinction for source vs. destination on the arcs too, that’s worth trying.
      • ahk-dev 4 hours ago
        One thing I'd find interesting is the inverse view: instead of starting from a place or artifact, start from a museum and visualize the geographic footprint of its collection. It could make the collection's provenance surprisingly tangible, especially for institutions with very global holdings.
  • vanyaland 2 hours ago
    How well does the fuzzy matcher resolve provenance text to origin sites? Curious what share of the 200k in the README needed hand correction.
    • hbyel 2 hours ago
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  • bazzingadev 4 hours ago
    Do you plan on improving the performance of the website ?
    • hbyel 3 hours ago
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  • warpspeedchic 5 hours ago
    holy gosh, this is brilliant. i've been toggling around this site for a good 40 minutes now. learning so much!!! arrrgggh, i love the internet.
  • berardino 4 hours ago
    It is truly very useful not only for art history but also for the history of colonial rule
  • robintiman11 5 hours ago
    Very cool
  • terekhindc 3 hours ago
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