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  • collabs 2 hours ago
    > In the town of Abu Falah, near Ramallah, at least 80 settlers, some of whom were carrying firearms or clubs, gathered to stop Palestinians from harvesting their olives, using slingshots to hurl rocks at the farmers in view of Israeli military vehicles. When some of the Palestinians then picked up rocks to defend themselves, the Israeli military fired teargas in their direction.

    This has become beyond ridiculous. I have personally gone from full support for Israel to now not even supporting Israel's right to exist. And I can't be the only one. I feel sorry for the (clearly increasingly rare) "normal" people of Israel but they will soon need to move out of Israel to not be bundled in with the crazies.

    • jaredklewis 1 hour ago
      I get that this is a hot take, but where are the "normal" people of Israel going to move to exactly? Remind me which group of countries are offering to take in 10 million immigrants?
      • defrost 53 minutes ago
        That's the population of Israel, not the number of Israeli citizens opposed to the current government and the actions of the settlers.
        • jaredklewis 35 minutes ago
          Fair enough, so make it 4 or 5 million or whatever number seems reasonable, but I would still like to know which countries are going to accept these millions of people.
          • defrost 25 minutes ago
            You think fully half the population of Israel opposes the current government and the actions of the settlers?

            That seems ... unlikely.

            Call it a million, maybe, at most, that might want to move .. pragmatically a hundred thousand per year over the next decade.

            Currently

               304 million people—3.7 percent of the world's population—lived outside their country of birth in 2024, nearly double the 153.9 million in 1990, per UN Population Division data. 
              The United States hosted more than 52 million migrants in 2024
            
            ~ https://www.migrationpolicy.org/journal/feature/top-statisti...

            so the precedent is there to absorb another million across the globe, although realistically the US in its current state is unlikely to welcome "peaceniks" who'd be accused of supporting Hamas.

            • jaredklewis 8 minutes ago
              I was replying to a comment which stated that they didn't support "Israel's right to exist" and suggested that Israelis move. I interpreted the comment as saying "we can solve this problem by moving the Israelis out of Israel." But this is dumb. It's not like anyone can just go move to another country because they feel like it. You generally need a spouse, a job, or some other wedge to get into that country. And there are no countries volunteering to make a special exception and take in Israeli's, even at "only" a hundred thousand per year.

              Of course, they also might also not feel like it. I was born and raised in the US. I strongly oppose almost everything President Trump does. I don't see why that means I should have to move.

      • karmakurtisaani 1 hour ago
        I suppose to the same place Palestinians are supposed to go..
        • jaredklewis 59 minutes ago
          Palestine? That's not moving; they are there now.
          • karmakurtisaani 18 minutes ago
            Are you aware this is a thread concerning Israeli settler violence? The settlers are not settling on empty land..
            • Gud 0 minutes ago
              Frankly, current Israel was not really built on top of empty land either.
            • jaredklewis 3 minutes ago
              I am aware of that.

              I responding to a comment suggesting that Israelis (not settlers, but Israelis in general) should move to another place, but the comment did not specify where they should move to. Where is this place that the Israelis can go?

    • za3faran 1 hour ago
      > This has become beyond ridiculous

      It always was, but things are now coming to light because their war crimes are being broadcast live for everyone to see from first person point of view.

      Thank you for siding with the right side of history.

      • thefz 1 hour ago
        > their war crimes are being broadcast live

        Always have been, it's all over media in Arab countries. It's just western media that is glossing over the genocide.

  • grey-area 2 hours ago
    This is a pattern for Israel. Settlers attack, harass and kill Palestinians with impunity and have done for decades. It’s wrong.
  • bozdemir 2 hours ago
    Flying cars, Super Duper Intelligence, AGI and yet we can't even stop these, we can't even have peace on earth, we can't avoid conflicts. What good these technological advances are if we can't prevent ourselves being violent apes?
  • quietbritishjim 2 hours ago
    This is a terrible issue and completely unacceptable. But do I really need to read about it on Hacker News? This is not the place for that.
  • thefz 2 hours ago
    Clearly defending themselves from Hamas.
    • raincom 2 hours ago
      Hamas doesn't rule the West Bank though.
      • thefz 1 hour ago
        As I said, being sarcastic.

        The amount of apologism, denial and support for the horrors Israel is perpetrating, in this forum, is unreal.

        • karmakurtisaani 14 minutes ago
          A surprisingly large cohort of tech people are completely fine with fascism. I suppose it "technically" solves a lot of perceived problems in society, so it appeals to many people who severally lack in empathy or critical thinking.
    • pbiggar 2 hours ago
      i think you're being sarcastic but for others reading this without context:

      - Israel has used "Hamas" as a get-out-of-jail-free card with people in the West - Hamas are not in the West Bank (which is physical separated from Gaza, where Hamas operated)

      • thefz 2 hours ago
        Yes I was being sarcastic.
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