Toit v2.0.0

(toit.io)

75 points | by floitsch 2 days ago

9 comments

  • heavensteeth 0 minutes ago
    This seems very interesting. It almost looks/feels like Pythonic Go.

    There's already another syntax example in the thread, but I want to point out the weirdest syntax I've seen yet: positional arguments look like posix command arguments:

       greet name/string="World" --greeting/string="Hello" -> string:
         return "$greeting $name"
    
       main:
         print (greet)                         // Prints Hello World.
         print (greet "Ada" --greeting="Hi")    // Prints Hi Ada.
  • draven 2 hours ago
    The wikipedia page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toit is short but still gives a lot of context.
    • ilvez 1 hour ago
      Just a joking side note: switch n to t in the URL and you get article for food in Estonian: https://et.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toit
    • no_time 1 hour ago
      >In February 2019, the company raised DKK 23 million (approximately US$3.5 million) in seed funding from Swedish venture capital firm Creandum.[4] Early versions required cloud registration to deploy code to devices.[5]

      DNS blackhole the domain and run.

      • unsnap_biceps 1 hour ago
        > The commercial cloud offering was later discontinued. Development of fleet-management tooling continued through an open-source project called Artemis, built on Supabase and PostgreSQL, which users self-host.[8]

        > According to Denmark's Central Business Register, Toitware ApS ceased operating in 2024.[9] Development of the language continues as a community project on GitHub.

        Seems unlikely to be a bait and switch at this point

        • no_time 1 hour ago
          whoops, black and white thinking burns me once more.
  • thomascountz 2 hours ago

       Toit is a language for writing scripts on your computer and applications on your ESP32. A readable syntax, an efficient runtime, and tools that work together.
    
       Free and open source. Maintained by volunteers.
    • skrebbel 2 hours ago
      Even after reading that (and more of the homepage) I have no idea what this is.
      • self 39 minutes ago
        Think of it as a runtime + scheduler that you deploy programs to ESP32 devices. It gives you the ability to run multiple programs simultaneously (with isolation) and remote updates. The language compiles to bytecode; the developers have lots of experience writing VMs for constrained devices; see https://www.theregister.com/software/2004/07/27/forgotten-la... for something that predates V8 and Dart.
  • jacobgorm 2 hours ago
    The people behind Toit are the original people behind the V8 VM in Chrome. They know their stuff.
    • vanderZwan 1 hour ago
      Those were it's creators, are they still involved after the company folded?

      Because if not, that might explain the lack of marketing around it.

      • floitsch 1 hour ago
        Kasper and I are still working on it.
    • Imustaskforhelp 2 hours ago
      Also co-founding Dart. They definitely know their stuff.
      • jimbob45 1 hour ago
        Dart should have enjoyed the popularity that TypeScript received. Tough to compete with Hejlsberg though.
        • latexr 2 minutes ago
          I may be misremembering, but my recollection is that Dart was written off in large part because of Google. Distrust with them was already high as they were abusing their dominance with things like AMP, and people felt it was a bad idea to give them even more control over the web.
    • MrBuddyCasino 2 hours ago
      They should write this prominently on their website. It doesn’t radiate trustworthiness/substance/reputation. Also performance and resource requirements should be prominent when targets are MCUs.
  • maxloh 2 hours ago
    Here's a beginner tutorial for the language: https://docs.toit.io/language/toitversus

    Nice syntax. It looks like how we'd design programming if C had never existed.

      add a/int b/int -> int:
        return a + b
      
      main:
        print (add 2 3)  // Prints 5.
  • benrutter 1 hour ago
    Looks interesting! I can't tell really from the docs the untended use case though. It says "scripts", but also " applications".

    Most importantly though (/s), is this toit as in "roof" in French, toit as in "to it", or otherwise?

  • vim-guru 1 hour ago
    Looks quite nice
  • mi_lk 2 hours ago
    Who is using this? The company originally behind it has shut down
  • Hamuko 1 hour ago
    Is there some kind of an advertising blurb for why you’d want to use Toit, especially for scripting? I think the only thing I saw was “a readable language”, but I’d probably consider Python more readable than it judging from the examples.
    • ricardobeat 19 minutes ago
      Good luck running (micro)python on an ESP32.